barberch Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 which new models are totally Yamaha? I was thinking of the Viper, Sidewinder , SRVenture and the new SRX 120 youth.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledjunk Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Apex (spring order only for '18) and Vector are are still Japanese builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barberch Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, sledjunk said: Apex (spring order only for '18) and Vector are are still Japanese builds. those are not new models. They have been out a long, long, long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorches Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 57 minutes ago, barberch said: which new models are totally Yamaha? I was thinking of the Viper, Sidewinder , SRVenture and the new SRX 120 youth.... Not the Viper or Sidewinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledjunk Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Maybe not new models, but still current (as of '18) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barberch Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 44 minutes ago, thetorches said: Not the Viper or Sidewinder. correct. None of the new models that have come out have been made by Yamaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Seems odd to flat out deny you any support. I too would like to see pics of the damage I often wonder about two tier warranty support. Offer replacement parts on exchange for inspection but no labour type deal. Think pump rub and GM 4x4 and so on. Warranty is becoming a waste of paper What was that I was talking about a week or so ago, death by a thousand paper cuts or something or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperules700 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, crispy said: Seems odd to flat out deny you any support. I too would like to see pics of the damage I often wonder about two tier warranty support. Offer replacement parts on exchange for inspection but no labour type deal. Think pump rub and GM 4x4 and so on. Warranty is becoming a waste of paper What was that I was talking about a week or so ago, death by a thousand paper cuts or something or another I no longer buy extended warranties on anything. Too many exclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 The latest CAT Procross/Proclimb chassis I recall had bending issues at the rear when they first came out, it was resolved and have not heard of the issue again. Considering how rare this is, unless you actually caused the bend by a hit to something, I am not surprised these claims are first denied, until the issue is further pressed and investigated, which than turns into possibly a new decision based on the case. Just sucks to happen as I am sure it is a long process when & if it happens to validate the bend as user abuse or a manufacturing/product defect. Good luck with your issue and I hope it turns out for the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezerBurnt Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Hope they step up But this is really a Cat sled with a Yamaha engine, must be other Cats with same issue Did they change the tunnel supports for 2018? I know a few 10,000km Yamaha/Cats never heard of this issue Any ZR 9000s/Thundercats reporting same issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/14/2018 at 9:58 PM, zoso said: When was this, 1972. Yamaha warranty on their sleds has been terrible for many years. They blame the customer for every single failure any of their sleds has. The only way they will own this issue is if they are forced to by a court. Cat might have helped, but even that is a long shot. The very nature of the usage of a sled will give them an easy out. A friend had a '94 Vmax 600 & couldn't beat my '95 440 on a lake the season I bought it. He took it to the dealer & turned out the secondary bushings were worn out & it wouldn't shift out. They wouldn't cover them. I would've been p!@#$d to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, revrnd said: A friend had a '94 Vmax 600 & couldn't beat my '95 440 on a lake the season I bought it. He took it to the dealer & turned out the secondary bushings were worn out & it wouldn't shift out. They wouldn't cover them. I would've been p!@#$d to say the least. ...and they will deny that same claim today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezerBurnt Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 https://www.facebook.com/groups/700367290002634/permalink/1711308178908535/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 32 minutes ago, FreezerBurnt said: https://www.facebook.com/groups/700367290002634/permalink/1711308178908535/ Those do not look like one month old sleds ridden a few miles on trails. Not really relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, zoso said: Those do not look like one month old sleds ridden a few miles on trails. Not really relevant. I would agree with your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyIan Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 Still waiting to hear an update from the dealer and yamaha customer care... I have a list of questions and concerns to bring forward when the time comes. Spoke to a fellow owner across the border dealing with the identical issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PISTON LAKE CRUISER Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 hour ago, IndyIan said: Still waiting to hear an update from the dealer and yamaha customer care... I have a list of questions and concerns to bring forward when the time comes. Spoke to a fellow owner across the border dealing with the identical issue. Frustrating when you're waiting for a response. You're between a rock and a hard place. You want an answer but if you push too much they may just deny it. Having said that they should be able to at least contact you with an update within 2 weeks IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 You have been denied, I would pay a lawyer to send a letter of intent to litigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack1 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 i agree, this is not the norm...i would take action...blaaa blaaaa you should not be having this problem.period...don't care what there response is....this is not the norm...you simply have one of the not up to spec ,per articc at tunnels,,you should not be a guinie pig for this failure..push push push.to much money for there avertized hipe durrability..no EXCUSE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 19 hours ago, blackjack1 said: i agree, this is not the norm...i would take action...blaaa blaaaa you should not be having this problem.period...don't care what there response is....this is not the norm...you simply have one of the not up to spec ,per articc at tunnels,,you should not be a guinie pig for this failure..push push push.to much money for there avertized hipe durrability..no EXCUSE... No way I would sit and wait while the snow melts. I would sue for depreciation as well as the cost to repair. A lawyer will force them to hear you, otherwise they will kick the can down the road in hopes you just go away. If this were a car, which you can buy new for less money, and the frame bent while using in normal conditions, would you accept this crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Sidewinder bent tunnel. Sled Damage 2017 sidewinder.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 On 2018-02-22 at 6:32 PM, zoso said: You have been denied, I would pay a lawyer to send a letter of intent to litigate. Which would be thrown directly into the trash bin, issue a statement of claim, letter of intent does nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 6 hours ago, zoso said: No way I would sit and wait while the snow melts. I would sue for depreciation as well as the cost to repair. A lawyer will force them to hear you, otherwise they will kick the can down the road in hopes you just go away. If this were a car, which you can buy new for less money, and the frame bent while using in normal conditions, would you accept this crap? Not sure why everyone thinks a letter from a lawyer will do anything, they will ignore it just the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbakernbay Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Can we see a photo of the damaged tunnel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoso Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 29 minutes ago, Spiderman said: Which would be thrown directly into the trash bin, issue a statement of claim, letter of intent does nothing. Well I am sure the lawyer would tell me that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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