none Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I know it's been beaten to death ,but, I'm saying it again -- Stay to the right !! This past weekend was perfect in Haliburton , the trails were excellent --Thanks groomers ! But why do the guys that stand up all day have to carve up every corner and scare the bejeebers out of us "family type" sledders ? I'm glad our group had comms in our helmets to warn of oncoming yahoos. I was leading all day and missed kissing the same Dragon twice ! Several close calls on Sun. morning. Come on guys --use your brains ! Make it a priority to be safe . P.s. to livin' Best trail conditions in years Thanks , and hats off to Tall Pines as well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 OH, so agree with that observation. If your sled is setup to standup, you are likley an asshat. (Not always, cause that would be profiling, and profiling is wrong) And stop modifying your exhausts. Noise closes trails! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 this occurred years before stand up sleds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrafrozen Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Preaching to the choir! Met three groups of sleds on Saturday while out with my wife and two of them were riding the center when we met. Luckily it wasn't in a corner but I did observe their tracks in the corners and they were all on my side. I'll have to get one of those moose bumpers for the front of my sled or maybe a bright flashing light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techdenis007 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Just keep a 4 foot section of 2x4 on the running board for such close calls ..... let 'em have it upside the head when they go by, f'n stupid bastages..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbill Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Preaching to the choir! Met three groups of sleds on Saturday while out with my wife and two of them were riding the center when we met. Luckily it wasn't in a corner but I did observe their tracks in the corners and they were all on my side. I'll have to get one of those moose bumpers for the front of my sled or maybe a bright flashing light. paintball gun frozen paintballs = ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livin' on the b103 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Thanks bucko, if we made the trails wider than the 401 there still would be folks on the wrong side! Had an issue with one of the stand up low windshield crew on the family day weekend, coming down the b103 from Hali to Kinmount couldn't see tail lites 10 feet in front of me in the snow and wild winds, stand up guy passed all 3 of us and made a point of giving us a VISOR SHOT each as he passed. Not as many of these types out this way as the boys west of us have to deal with and let's hope it stays that way. LIVIN' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Sledder Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 More often than not our sledders are good people, it's those who think that they are better than everyone else that ruin the ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
none Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Yup , I'm sure that if there were signs every hundred feet on the trails sayin' " keep right " these guys would think they mean it's ok to do what they do. F**k ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 A solo rider caught up to me & I let him by on Sat'. He was cutting corners as he continued along. If I hadn't seen him, I wouldn't have known which way he was going down the trail. He wasn't making any effort to stay on his side even when approaching blind corners or hills. I guess he had ex ray vision. BTW he wasn't standing up. (not that I'm apologizing for the "flat brim crowd"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahas Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I know it's been beaten to death ,but, I'm saying it again -- Stay to the right !! This past weekend was perfect in Haliburton , the trails were excellent --Thanks groomers ! But why do the guys that stand up all day have to carve up every corner and scare the bejeebers out of us "family type" sledders ? I'm glad our group had comms in our helmets to warn of oncoming yahoos. I was leading all day and missed kissing the same Dragon twice ! Several close calls on Sun. morning. Come on guys --use your brains ! Make it a priority to be safe . P.s. to livin' Best trail conditions in years Thanks , and hats off to Tall Pines as well . I don't think it's fair to point out "stand up riders". I am a young guy, ride a "stand up sled", although stock my sled may not be the quietest sled on the trails. However I am able to keep to my side of the trail, as well as many other riders that I know. I have seen many "family type" riders riding on the wrong side of the trails as well. I am not saying you came across the only stand up type sled to travel on the wrong side of the trail. I know there are asshats riding stand up sleds. I completely agree that when riders cut corners it is very dangerous. I just don't agree that the type/style of sled changes whether or not you are a safe/responsible rider. I picked the sled I purchase based on what I feel comfortable riding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezerBurnt Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 this occurred years before stand up sleds exactly, stand up or sit down it is the throttle jockey that likes to roost BTW I tried to ride stand up last week and got 40mteres and sat back down LOL, I just can't figure the stand up position for trail riding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue er Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Theres all kinds out there. Really its also easy to bitch about the mom and pop riders doing 30 down the middle of the trail and not paying attention to whos trying to pass. Keep your eyes open and be prepared for anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I don't think it's fair to point out "stand up riders". I am a young guy, ride a "stand up sled", although stock my sled may not be the quietest sled on the trails. However I am able to keep to my side of the trail, as well as many other riders that I know. I have seen many "family type" riders riding on the wrong side of the trails as well. I am not saying you came across the only stand up type sled to travel on the wrong side of the trail. I know there are asshats riding stand up sleds. I completely agree that when riders cut corners it is very dangerous. I just don't agree that the type/style of sled changes whether or not you are a safe/responsible rider. I picked the sled I purchase based on what I feel comfortable riding it. Yes, I agree that not all stand-up riders are throttle Jockeys. And that not all sit down on your ass riders are good riders. Its just an observation that when I see a Stand-up rider, I feel the need to take extra precautions to compensate for the risk that this rider is an asshat. Not every person who drives a red car is speeding, but you will certainly get the attention of the police...statistically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnj Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Also, what's with the lumps of snow some seem to have to leave behind them on every little bump or hill or corner. It's hard on the person that has the joy of following that. Hitting those are hard on the ol back!! To me anyways. Do they have to prove their sled is powerful enough to spin the track??? If so, my old 69 Nordic must be one powerful sled because it will spin the track too. Or, does it show the person following " look how strong I am !! I can squeeze this lever ALL the way, whoohooo!! (Idgits) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgooding Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I rode with 6 others this weekend and I was often leading. Couple of close calls as people do not feel the need to stay on their side. And of course instead of trying to move over, they lock up their brakes so the sled starts sliding side ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulsFST Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The world is full of azzhats, unfortunately some of them are snowmobilers. The rest seem to commute on the 417 at the same time i do. Fortunately, there are a lot of great people who happen to be snowmobilers too! I too, don't understand why some some cant keep to their side of the trail and seem to take pleasure in destroying a perfectly groomed trail. I believe that the problem lies in a specific mind set as opposed to rider position or sled type. I agree, IDJITS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 at the Conestoga Clubhouse this past weekend we had just come out of the club and we were parked maybe 25 ft from the front door...we walked to are sleds and were getting ready to ride...some ass clown on a ski doo ( standing up too..lol...) comes flying through between us and the clubhouse and flies by and then pops onto the lake....so dangerous right where people come in and out....since he did not stop we could not punch him in the throat.... secondly, to all the guys who have big, powerful sleds, we already know you do...there is no need to pin the throttle every time you see someone....we all know you are actually making up for some under lying self esteem issues ....hitting the throttle will not make it bigger.....funny thing is, if my grandmother drove a sled she too could make a nice pile of snow behind her when she took off...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibsonNytro Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I ride a "stand up sled" and yes, sometimes stand and ride.. But I'm always on my side of the trail. On Saturday I was on C101D heading to Trail 17 to head back home and this guy on a 2 up bear-cat was coming at me on the trail and he decided he needed to pass me on my right side, cutting in front of me and driving off the trail to pass me. How does one think this is a good idea? I had 3 other sled behind me and we all had to stop so we wouldn't get hit. Too many close calls on Saturday, it was like people forgot how to ride last weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I mostly ride during the week (maybe see 6 other riders [or less] all day). I strive to stay to my right and do so 95% of the time and I would say that the majority of the that time ( in my experience) the right side is virtually "untravelled" - no tracks - so I find the ride nicer . Other riders just seem to gravitate to the beaten path. Not keeping to the right of the trail seems to be a big widespread problem. For many I guess the lack of a little yellow line down the middle indicates a free for all. If you are going to ride on busy trails though you should expect some "asshats", "idjits" or whatever you choose to call them. Same as you should when travelling by car on busy streets or highways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I ride a "stand up sled" and yes, sometimes stand and ride.. But I'm always on my side of the trail. On Saturday I was on C101D heading to Trail 17 to head back home and this guy on a 2 up bear-cat was coming at me on the trail and he decided he needed to pass me on my right side, cutting in front of me and driving off the trail to pass me. How does one think this is a good idea? I had 3 other sled behind me and we all had to stop so we wouldn't get hit. Too many close calls on Saturday, it was like people forgot how to ride last weekend. Stop and OPP have up'd patrols in the area so hopefully people will slow down and get the message... I scared the crap out of a few asshats in the groomer this weekend at night going to the moon river. Dont know why they were racing when they were on fresh groom, something should clue in that a groomer was ahead. Came upon them on my return, glad I can see headlights at night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I ride a "stand up sled" and yes, sometimes stand and ride.. But I'm always on my side of the trail. On Saturday I was on C101D heading to Trail 17 to head back home and this guy on a 2 up bear-cat was coming at me on the trail and he decided he needed to pass me on my right side, cutting in front of me and driving off the trail to pass me. How does one think this is a good idea? I had 3 other sled behind me and we all had to stop so we wouldn't get hit. Too many close calls on Saturday, it was like people forgot how to ride last weekend. LOL... I wonder what the BearCats story would be? "I saw this asshat standing up and I knew he wouldn't stay on his side of the trail, so i was forced into the rhubarb and escaped with my life." j/k You just never know what the other is thinking.... Unless of course you have a uClear Helmet Communicator and then you constantly know what SHE is thinking...out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I mostly ride during the week (maybe see 6 other riders [or less] all day). I strive to stay to my right and do so 95% of the time and I would say that the majority of the that time ( in my experience) the right side is virtually "untravelled" - no tracks - so I find the ride nicer . Other riders just seem to gravitate to the beaten path. Not keeping to the right of the trail seems to be a big widespread problem. For many I guess the lack of a little yellow line down the middle indicates a free for all. If you are going to ride on busy trails though you should expect some "asshats", "idjits" or whatever you choose to call them. Same as you should when travelling by car on busy streets or highways. We should paint a yellow line down the middle of a trail and video what happens!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibsonNytro Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 LOL... I wonder what the BearCats story would be? "I saw this asshat standing up and I knew he wouldn't stay on his side of the trail, so i was forced into the rhubarb and escaped with my life." j/k You just never know what the other is thinking.... Unless of course you have a uClear Helmet Communicator and then you constantly know what SHE is thinking...out loud. Actually laughed out loud on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 This is a post I read "elsewhere" which I found very telling and speaks to the many "themes" raised here: "This is exactly how I feel now too. Our group has moved to the off trail/backcountry approach and is not missing the antics of the trail. Being people riding over their skill level or going from bar to bar on a beer tour all day. That's not saying that backcountry riding comes without risk. It's just a little more calculated and controlled I think as I've never had a almost head on incident with another sled while I'm breaking my way through 4' of fresh. I'm going to come out and say it and say that I used to be that guy who had to run 90 mph all day, get angry at slow riders, pass in unsafe places, ride with no regard to anyone but myself and I'm sorry for that more and more every day and year that goes by. I could have got myself or more importantly, someone else hurt or killed and would never be able to live with that. For anyone I've done that to, I'm deeply sorry and can say that's not me anymore and never will be again! Unfortunately, our new passion for off trail gets us ridiculed more than our fast trail riding. What I mean is we show up with our summits, freerides, and RMK's with loud colors, put on our MX helmets, backpacks with shovels, etc and we're looked at like a bunch of teenage punks on a mission to get the local trails shut down!! We are riding 10 times safer and more prepared and literally get yelled at at trail intersections to go the f... home by people with beers in hand!? It's not till we pull off our helmets that you realize we're all over 40, wearing proper gear, carrying most everything we need to repair or extract a sled or worse, one of our own as nearly all of us carry medical supplies and are trained as first responders, and stop to help more trail riders then I can remember. We've saved beer time for when the day is over now and that's a big plus too. I've stopped riding with the friends that still want to ride as fast as they can all day and am still waiting for a call someday that something went really bad. I know that's a horrible thing to say but it's the honest feelings that race through my head all the time. Please take an extra minute to be safe everyone, and don't be so quick to judge your fellow man on the sled coming at you for the bright colors/stand-up/backpack wearing 40+ year old group that will always stop for your emergency and are not always the ones that cause it. Godspeed to our rider that's no longer with us, we will see you again my friend........." RRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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